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Barry Silk

PhillySolver - Thanks for your writeup. Due to other plans, I was unable to attend this year. I was informed that the church used for Lollapuzzoola was the site where the game of Scrabble was first played. So, I thought that a scrabble-themed puzzle would be appropriate for the contest. The inventor of the Scrabble game, Alfred Mosher Butts, called his game Criss-Crosswords before it became known as Scrabble. Hence, I chose that name for the puzzle's title. I didn't want the title to be too obvious and give away the theme, but I wonder if anyone who solved the puzzle understood the connection? See Scrabble Avenue article and Wikipedia article. Sounds like it was a fun day for all who attended!

PhillySolver

Barry,
We loved the puzzle and I heard several discussions about the its link to the venue. I didn't know the Criss-Crossword part, so thanks for the link. See you next year.

Brian

PhillySolver,

Thank you so much for the wonderful write-up! Not getting much (if any) time to chat with you was one of my regrets of the day. I have always admired your commentary on the crossword blogs I read, and I was delighted when Ryan told me you had signed up for the event. Again, thank you for coming, and for your wonderful write-up.

You were not alone in having difficulty recognizing the tunes for Dan Feyer's puzzle. Perhaps, if we were to do another similar idea, we could offer either a stanza of lyrics (perhaps disguised as prose, to stay somewhat secretive), or perhaps a better performance of the music than a keyboard left over from 1982.

(Incidentally, it was me [BRIAN] and not Ryan who played the keyboard -- I think maybe you arrived moments after we clarified which of us was which. This is further confused by our podcast, in which RYAN, inexplicably, plays the piano on a regular basis whereas BRIAN does not. We are a strange duo, that's for sure.)

I think that if we can somehow get Howard Barkin involved in a non-contestant manner, winning a chance to co-solve with him might be quite a coup of a prize. Howard, if you're reading this, you'll have to let us know what you think.

Anyway -- thanks again for your wonderful comments. We have already begun discussing ideas for another event, so we'll be sure to keep everyone posted on that development. Hope to see you at the ACPT in the spring if not sooner.


--Brian
--Ryan and Brian do Crosswords

Ellen

My necklace comes from the Linda Collection of Fine Jewels (hand-me-up from my sister), and the dress is also from the Linda Collection. My favorite store is Linda's closet in Miami.

Mike Nothnagel finished 4th.
SPOILER: Mike's puzzle had words which were used to start the game that followed.

One way the first ACPT (which I attended) differed from 2008 was that the scoring counted correct letters instead of words (technically, grid entries, since an entry could be more than one word). This was a nightmare for the judges, who did not get to have actual nightmares as they stayed up all night grading papers. People put in random letters (usually E's) hoping to get credit, and judges had to see if some of these letters were actually right. This doesn't happen if you're counting correct words since chances are excellent a word isn't ZOLAEEEEE or whatever.

Letters were used in Lolla scoring, and I would have advised against this had I known (I advocated Pleasantville scoring of first correct puzzle wins the round, and then you can stop grading). I might have run screaming when I found out we were counting letters, but luckily there weren't a huge number of contestants and I had help from Mike, Angela and Howard so we were able to finish (Brian graded the last 3 puzzles at home). If a grid is complete, letters vs. words makes no difference, but many puzzles were incomplete.

While the idea of having Howard (or any A-level solver) co-solve after a certain point is cute, it might end up with the expert solver just filling in the rest of the puzzle so some constraint would be needed.

PhillySolver

Ellen,
Thanks for your insightful post and revealing the secret shop in Miami. I noted that Mike N did place but my notes didn't have him getting one of the 'inappropriate' prizes. Was that out of respect or fear of some demented puzzle showing up some Saturday revealing the truth about Brian's and Ryan's scheme to lower the price of gasoline until after the election?

Dan

Thank you Philly for the report! Maybe Brian can make a quick and dirty recording of the musical cues, to be posted with the puzzle. Hope people enjoyed my debut constructing effort. (This guy didn't, but he wasn't expecting all the gimmickry. Some spoilers at that link.)

Pat Manzo

@PhillySolver: sorry I didn't have a chance to chat with you. You were my runner at my rookie ACPT this year. I must confess to worrying about accusations of attempting to influence the judges, should you serve in the same capacity next year. ;-)

joon

hey dan--i know that guy, i think, from a non-crossword context. i liked your puzzle, but maybe it was easier to do without the tunes themselves? it wasn't very hard to put them all together from crosses.

PhillySolver

Dan,
I liked your puzzle and completed it recently without the music. I appreciate that new things were tried and thought it was a fun idea. I think it was the musician's fault. It always is. No, seriously, I will have to tell you somethings about my musical non-talent when I see you next time. I am Legend.


Pat,
Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk more also. I will plan to stay overnight next year and find out more about the interesting people who made it to Queens.


Brian

Pat,

HEY! The musician's fault?!

Seriously -- it was a crappy keyboard, but really the best we could do on our budget.

Mike Nothnagel won a dictionary. It was one of the new not-horrible prizes.

- Brian

Pat Manzo

Brian, bubbala, I have no quarrel with musicians. Take another look at the posting. ;-)

Howard B

Be happy to help in any way that I can, of course.

By the way, there was only one tune that I couldn't figure out after two playings (is that a kosher noun?). Two of them I was able to write in directly off the first play. But then again, I grew up in the 80s playing a 2 1/2-octave Casio keyboard while taking piano lessons, so maybe there's a bias there.

Pauer

Fun write-up! Thanks for the nod (and thanks to ACME for the tip about the post). I've been bad about blog reading lately - not as bad about blog posting, but I hope to devote some time to both in the near future.

I like this blog-sharing that's going on lately. From people guest hosting to posting write-ups of books and events, the web has certainly made the world a different place.

Getting back to LPZ, I love how the lowest score was thrown out, especially since it allowed Nothnagel to compete. Tho I do note that the puzzle *he* had thrown out (his own) was the hardest one, cluing-wise. So it might be argued that it was to his advantage to crank up the difficulty as much as possible. Not that he would do that; he certainly doesn't need to cheat. I'm just saying. Okay, fine - I think I'm just sore that I fell for [Knuckle head?]. Curse you, 'Nagel! :-)>

Best,
Patrick

Brian

Whoops... Pat, I didn't mean you. I misread. It was PHILLYSOLVER! You demon. Accusing the musician of faulty cluing. How dare you??? :)

@ Patrick: Nothnagel's puzzle, while quite difficult, had plenty of points available to solvers, especially considering the potential for 100 bonus points if you won Twister. By taking a zero on his own puzzle, he probably suffered a fall from at least 3rd place, if not possibly 2nd.

- Brian

PuzzleGirl

Just wanted to chime in to say, again, what an awesome time I had at the big puzzle event. Can't wait for the next one. Ryan and Brian have the most adorable wives ever.

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